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Texas court upholds conviction of naturalized wetback woman sentenced to 8 years in prison for voter fraud
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Rob Woodward
2018-12-01 08:03:35 UTC
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Revoke her citizenship and deport her ass.

An appeals court upheld last year’s conviction of a Texas woman who
officials said voted illegally multiple times, Attorney General Ken
Paxton said Tuesday.

Rosa Maria Ortega, a green card holder, is a permanent resident who
lives in the Dallas area. On voter registration forms, Ortega marked
she was a U.S. citizen – allowing her to vote “illegally for more than
10 years,” Paxton’s office said.

The mother of four was sentenced to eight years in prison with parole
eligibility in less than one year. She was also fined $5,000. The
Texas 2nd Court of Appeals upheld the conviction Tuesday.

The attorney general’s office said it had offered Ortega a lesser
punishment so she could avoid prison – just two years of community
supervision – but she declined and chose a jury trial instead.

“This case underscores the importance that Texans place on the
institution of voting and the hallowed principle that every citizen’s
vote must count,” Paxton said in a statement. “We will hold those
accountable who falsely claim eligibility and purposely subvert the
election process in Texas.”

Ortega had said she was confused by the voter registration forms and
made a mistake when she marked that she was a U.S. citizen on the
paperwork.

“All my life since I worked, I always on my knowledge thought I was a
U.S. citizen because I never knew the difference of U.S. citizen and
U.S. resident,” Ortega said, according to KDFW-TV. “And the point is
if I knew, everything would’ve been the correct way.”

Clark Birdsall, her attorney, told The Washington Post the only
options on the form was “citizen” or “noncitizen.”

“She doesn’t know. She’s got this [green] card that says ‘resident’ on
it, so she doesn’t mark that she’s not a citizen. She had no ulterior
motive beyond what she thought, mistakenly, was her civic duty,”
Birdsall said.

But prosecutors didn’t buy the defense. They said she initially marked
she was not a U.S. citizen on a voter registration form when she moved
from Dallas County to Tarrant County in 2014 and was informed she
would not be eligible to vote. When she applied again, she indicated
she was a U.S. citizen, according to Paxton’s office.

Records show Ortega was a registered Republican, and she cast a ballot
for Paxton in 2014. She voted in four elections in Dallas County after
she registered to vote in 2002. She voted five other times between
2004 and 2014, the attorney general’s office said.

Voter fraud became a hot-button issue after President Trump made an
unsubstantiated claim that he would have won the popular vote in the
2016 election if millions of people had not illegally voted.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-court-upholds-conviction-of-woman-sentenced-to-8-years-in-prison-for-voter-fraud
David Hartung
2018-12-01 13:34:40 UTC
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Post by Rob Woodward
Revoke her citizenship and deport her ass.
An appeals court upheld last year’s conviction of a Texas woman who
officials said voted illegally multiple times, Attorney General Ken
Paxton said Tuesday.
Rosa Maria Ortega, a green card holder, is a permanent resident who
lives in the Dallas area. On voter registration forms, Ortega marked
she was a U.S. citizen – allowing her to vote “illegally for more than
10 years,” Paxton’s office said.
The mother of four was sentenced to eight years in prison with parole
eligibility in less than one year. She was also fined $5,000. The
Texas 2nd Court of Appeals upheld the conviction Tuesday.
The attorney general’s office said it had offered Ortega a lesser
punishment so she could avoid prison – just two years of community
supervision – but she declined and chose a jury trial instead.
“This case underscores the importance that Texans place on the
institution of voting and the hallowed principle that every citizen’s
vote must count,” Paxton said in a statement. “We will hold those
accountable who falsely claim eligibility and purposely subvert the
election process in Texas.”
Ortega had said she was confused by the voter registration forms and
made a mistake when she marked that she was a U.S. citizen on the
paperwork.
“All my life since I worked, I always on my knowledge thought I was a
U.S. citizen because I never knew the difference of U.S. citizen and
U.S. resident,” Ortega said, according to KDFW-TV. “And the point is
if I knew, everything would’ve been the correct way.”
Clark Birdsall, her attorney, told The Washington Post the only
options on the form was “citizen” or “noncitizen.”
“She doesn’t know. She’s got this [green] card that says ‘resident’ on
it, so she doesn’t mark that she’s not a citizen. She had no ulterior
motive beyond what she thought, mistakenly, was her civic duty,”
Birdsall said.
But prosecutors didn’t buy the defense. They said she initially marked
she was not a U.S. citizen on a voter registration form when she moved
from Dallas County to Tarrant County in 2014 and was informed she
would not be eligible to vote. When she applied again, she indicated
she was a U.S. citizen, according to Paxton’s office.
Records show Ortega was a registered Republican, and she cast a ballot
for Paxton in 2014. She voted in four elections in Dallas County after
she registered to vote in 2002. She voted five other times between
2004 and 2014, the attorney general’s office said.
Voter fraud became a hot-button issue after President Trump made an
unsubstantiated claim that he would have won the popular vote in the
2016 election if millions of people had not illegally voted.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-court-upholds-conviction-of-woman-sentenced-to-8-years-in-prison-for-voter-fraud
I have mixed thoughts on this. As a non-citizen who voted illegally,
this lady absolutely deserves punishment, but at the same time I cannot
help but think that there are better ways of punishing those found
guilty of non-violent crime, than to lock them up.
Steve is offline now
2018-12-01 13:54:36 UTC
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On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 07:34:40 -0600, David Hartung
Post by David Hartung
Post by Rob Woodward
Revoke her citizenship and deport her ass.
An appeals court upheld last year’s conviction of a Texas woman who
officials said voted illegally multiple times, Attorney General Ken
Paxton said Tuesday.
Rosa Maria Ortega, a green card holder, is a permanent resident who
lives in the Dallas area. On voter registration forms, Ortega marked
she was a U.S. citizen – allowing her to vote “illegally for more than
10 years,” Paxton’s office said.
The mother of four was sentenced to eight years in prison with parole
eligibility in less than one year. She was also fined $5,000. The
Texas 2nd Court of Appeals upheld the conviction Tuesday.
The attorney general’s office said it had offered Ortega a lesser
punishment so she could avoid prison – just two years of community
supervision – but she declined and chose a jury trial instead.
“This case underscores the importance that Texans place on the
institution of voting and the hallowed principle that every citizen’s
vote must count,” Paxton said in a statement. “We will hold those
accountable who falsely claim eligibility and purposely subvert the
election process in Texas.”
Ortega had said she was confused by the voter registration forms and
made a mistake when she marked that she was a U.S. citizen on the
paperwork.
“All my life since I worked, I always on my knowledge thought I was a
U.S. citizen because I never knew the difference of U.S. citizen and
U.S. resident,” Ortega said, according to KDFW-TV. “And the point is
if I knew, everything would’ve been the correct way.”
Clark Birdsall, her attorney, told The Washington Post the only
options on the form was “citizen” or “noncitizen.”
“She doesn’t know. She’s got this [green] card that says ‘resident’ on
it, so she doesn’t mark that she’s not a citizen. She had no ulterior
motive beyond what she thought, mistakenly, was her civic duty,”
Birdsall said.
But prosecutors didn’t buy the defense. They said she initially marked
she was not a U.S. citizen on a voter registration form when she moved
from Dallas County to Tarrant County in 2014 and was informed she
would not be eligible to vote. When she applied again, she indicated
she was a U.S. citizen, according to Paxton’s office.
Records show Ortega was a registered Republican, and she cast a ballot
for Paxton in 2014. She voted in four elections in Dallas County after
she registered to vote in 2002. She voted five other times between
2004 and 2014, the attorney general’s office said.
Voter fraud became a hot-button issue after President Trump made an
unsubstantiated claim that he would have won the popular vote in the
2016 election if millions of people had not illegally voted.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-court-upholds-conviction-of-woman-sentenced-to-8-years-in-prison-for-voter-fraud
I have mixed thoughts on this. As a non-citizen who voted illegally,
this lady absolutely deserves punishment, but at the same time I cannot
help but think that there are better ways of punishing those found
guilty of non-violent crime, than to lock them up.
It's nor so much about punishment as it is keeping others afraid to do
it.
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2018-12-01 14:03:16 UTC
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